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		<title>By: wamoronjia</title>
		<link>http://www.sunwords.com/2009/11/16/would-your-organisation-have-employed-mandela/comment-page-1/#comment-43864</link>
		<dc:creator>wamoronjia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sunny
Provocative article as usual. What I fear is that after the really talented guys start these companies and these enterprises become great, they leave the hiring to the HR crew.
And guess what, the HR dept become &#039;paper&#039; driven. 
Sunny, it would be impossible to be hired by Apple now if i present just a diploma, even if the practical component outweighed the theoretical section of the course. 
Enjoy your weekend.
KW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sunny<br />
Provocative article as usual. What I fear is that after the really talented guys start these companies and these enterprises become great, they leave the hiring to the HR crew.<br />
And guess what, the HR dept become &#8216;paper&#8217; driven.<br />
Sunny, it would be impossible to be hired by Apple now if i present just a diploma, even if the practical component outweighed the theoretical section of the course.<br />
Enjoy your weekend.<br />
KW</p>
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		<title>By: mwaniki</title>
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		<dc:creator>mwaniki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunny i agree with you that many employers in Kenya are for what you got in your education system but not on what you can be trained to become.May be I would be claimed pessimistic blaming it all on our education system,for a common Kenyan kid, I included, to fully complete a degree is at 24yrs,yet in other contries at that age kids are killing themselves with PhD thesis.To even make it worst all that we learn is quite different with what the outside world requires.Sunny you wont be suprised to find a computer science graduate who cant even tell you the computer internal parts or a B.com graduate with no B/s ideas,we do not blame ourselves,the system we have doesnt allow us to go into such details.What can we do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny i agree with you that many employers in Kenya are for what you got in your education system but not on what you can be trained to become.May be I would be claimed pessimistic blaming it all on our education system,for a common Kenyan kid, I included, to fully complete a degree is at 24yrs,yet in other contries at that age kids are killing themselves with PhD thesis.To even make it worst all that we learn is quite different with what the outside world requires.Sunny you wont be suprised to find a computer science graduate who cant even tell you the computer internal parts or a B.com graduate with no B/s ideas,we do not blame ourselves,the system we have doesnt allow us to go into such details.What can we do?</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Bindra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny Bindra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mbogo:

That&#039;s a thoughtful contribution.  You are indeed right that many Kenyan firms are frozen from within, and could do with some fresh talent.  But equally, I discern some more modern-thinking ones who have gone too far the other way: going to the market for every vacant position.  

Both are dysfunctional.  Both have misunderstood the idea of talent.  Both are failing to achieve the kind of success that comes from sustenance of a high-performing team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mbogo:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a thoughtful contribution.  You are indeed right that many Kenyan firms are frozen from within, and could do with some fresh talent.  But equally, I discern some more modern-thinking ones who have gone too far the other way: going to the market for every vacant position.  </p>
<p>Both are dysfunctional.  Both have misunderstood the idea of talent.  Both are failing to achieve the kind of success that comes from sustenance of a high-performing team.</p>
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		<title>By: Mbogo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mbogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bindra,

Please allow me to contribute my two cents worth on this theme of promoting from within. 

The unfortunate reality is that rather than seek out, employ and promote unconventional employees with game-changing business ideas, most of our companies today prefer to employ and reward conformist individuals who fit into a particular conservative mould, all in the name of &quot;corporate stability and continuity&quot;. Ironically, it is these same companies that then pay huge sums to outside consultants who interestingly enough, offer them the very same ideas that the rejected would-be employee would have introduced into the company!
Apparently, the unwritten management rule seems to be - if the idea comes from within, it is a &quot;risky&quot; investment but if the same idea comes from a blue-chip consultant at triple the cost, then it must obviously be &quot;a proven winner&quot;. (This probably explains why many Kenyan professionals nowadays aspire to be professional consultants!) 

But then again, considering that Steve Jobs ideas for the Macintosh were turned down by his first employer, ATARI (they probably assumed that ideas from a college dropout with long shaggy hair and a hippie attitude weren&#039;t worth listening to!), It appears that Kenyan managers are in very good company. 

Truly, as the French say, &quot;Plus ca change, plus c&#039;est la meme chose!&quot;

Best Regards,
Mbogo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bindra,</p>
<p>Please allow me to contribute my two cents worth on this theme of promoting from within. </p>
<p>The unfortunate reality is that rather than seek out, employ and promote unconventional employees with game-changing business ideas, most of our companies today prefer to employ and reward conformist individuals who fit into a particular conservative mould, all in the name of &#8220;corporate stability and continuity&#8221;. Ironically, it is these same companies that then pay huge sums to outside consultants who interestingly enough, offer them the very same ideas that the rejected would-be employee would have introduced into the company!<br />
Apparently, the unwritten management rule seems to be &#8211; if the idea comes from within, it is a &#8220;risky&#8221; investment but if the same idea comes from a blue-chip consultant at triple the cost, then it must obviously be &#8220;a proven winner&#8221;. (This probably explains why many Kenyan professionals nowadays aspire to be professional consultants!) </p>
<p>But then again, considering that Steve Jobs ideas for the Macintosh were turned down by his first employer, ATARI (they probably assumed that ideas from a college dropout with long shaggy hair and a hippie attitude weren&#8217;t worth listening to!), It appears that Kenyan managers are in very good company. </p>
<p>Truly, as the French say, &#8220;Plus ca change, plus c&#8217;est la meme chose!&#8221;</p>
<p>Best Regards,<br />
Mbogo.</p>
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